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Its funny how a grown man can get so excited in satisfaction from getting this $%&)%^ing thing working againif anyone would have seen me they may have thought I just won the lottery with all the fist pumping and rants of YES! Note the LED flash sequence. I tried the other methods to discharge the caps etc Those Methods did not work. tried several rimes, will not stay lit. First, get a new valve. Some people said touching the 2 top posts and you said top right and bottom one. Although the part is covered under warranty, they will not just send a replacement. I have a red knob with green LED, and white cover. We shall see how long this lasts. Awesome articles you post on your blog, i have shared this article on my facebook. I have the exact electronic gas valve unit on my Whirlpool water heater I purchased 3 years ago. Okay. w~{c=?Y=R}N',8+*Skw:,q7o{v%NnxpwQNZy ZpRe"n:o [KA8tX#aW:Y{HbTna+]U. As a side note, the light on the new valve is white. Those two must also be connected which ever method is selected to correct the problem. I first noticed it a few days after install and immediately freaked and went to get the manual. I have a slight modification to make it even easier!!! I really dont need those (collective) idiots telling me what is safe and what is not. BTW To those who are confused about the poststhey are not on the circuit board or between the board & cover. I called my father-in-law and told him about it, he is a plumber and replaces this kind of valves all the time but he said he has never seen one that flashes any codes other than normal right out of the box Go figure!!! I have set a reminder in outlook to drain my tank once a year from now on. Emptied tank and there wasnt much sediment. Even though there are 4 higher settings! I waited to see if the pilot would go off, but about 3 minutes later it started flashing normal, once every 3 seconds. It will stay on once i jump the top left and right pins but it wont clear the code. I let the water sit until the water in it is no longer hotthe last shower usually takes care of that. i did just what you described and my water heater is finally on. If at first you dont succeed, try, try again. Thanks to the website and posters for saving me a lot of trouble. I understand that the Honeywell product is in recall. Now the replacement goes on the fritz. It works! Remove, Element, Stubborn. They said it needs to be assessed by a factory authorized repairman. This piece of junk is only 13 months old. Maybe I can purchase one with the G-D F@*CK*! Then connected one end of wire to the metal frame of the valve and randomly shorted numerous positions on the bottom of the circuit board.. i.e. Just lit the pilot again and set the temperature!! Thanks to this thread and bigger thanks to David Boone and the follow on info from CrankyTenants, after 10+ days without hot water and zero expense my water heater is now performing as intended again. While you have the old valve out, be sure to probe inside to see if you have gunk/sediment and/or crystals/salts. shut off the pilot and reconnect the 3 wire plug and but the cover back on. After about ten minutes the flashes changed back to the normal one flash operation. I saw that the light went out and the pilot had gone out. The Wt8840 Series Is The Water Heater Control For Trade Use to replace WV8840 valves on AO Smith water Heaters. If you need to look at the back to see how the tabs are arranged, look at the new valve. Brilliant!!! Thanks to this blog and everyones exploits with the Frankenvalve Heres what worked so far for me on a neighbors unit: THANK YOU! how do i get the circuit board completely out? I tried this simple solution you provided and it worked awesome. Maybe they will help others: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14153292543/ The comfort range is very small. When I came back to check the water heater, I saw that the light was flashing normally. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946581980/ The entire process from start to finish, including 2 stops to Lowes (once for tools, second for piping) and draining/refilling tank took over 2 hours. Is the designer still alive? I released the pilot knob and advanced the setting to HOT and the main burner came on.. Yay. 6. Yes my 20 month old envirotemp gas water (purchased from lowes) heater quit and is displaying 4 flashes of death . CORRECTING LAST SENTENCE: main valve (Right pin to (+), So I would recommend to you ( with Valve off the water heater and no gas applied, to test the pilot valve (left pin to (+))with the AA battery, and test the main valve (Right pin to (+)), and each individually should click, photo of pilot valve solenoid The new honeywell gas valve is completely electronic. The combo of using the battery trick as well as just running wires from the posts rather than unscrewing the module worked perfectly. They would have to diagnosis the water heater and then order the part, and then come back again to install at an additonal service price. My contacts with them left me in complete distrust, with the feeling that their solution failed to provide any real value, and my belief that while they may get my water heater working again, Id be left lighter in the wallet after being taken for an unpleasant ride that I could have (and did!) What top left and right pins, can you show a picture. 2. I used sealant on all the piping going into the valve assembly however I used teflon tape for the screwing portion of the assembly that goes into the tank and touches water. I have to say that thhis is amazing. great write up, but I cant find this part anywhere. Pilot is lit but the led will not blink red at all it, how to reset this valve. At least it works again and Ill have the replacement ready if it ever fails again. I cleaned burner and vents as well. and see what the thermostat looks like). They didnt ask any questions or ask for the old one to be returned. Picture:here, 3. I too thought no big deal to turn my water heater up ONE NOTCH!!! Just install the board with the cover removed as outlined. Also, is the setpoint continuously variable as the dial is turned, or are the labeled settings stepped and all there are? The water heater turns on and hubby and I live happily ever after. Much obliged. It took right off and has been working fine. The Deep End is a steampunk intrigue with plenty of reprehensible characters, plots, poisoned stabby things, and a murder mystery where the sleuth has to suspect herself. Thanks E. Update : Tried all the reset methods and none worked for me for the white light control valve. I was reading how you guys help one another and just thought AWESOME! My warrantied part is being overnighted. After a lot of back and forth they sent me the module which was a breeze to install. Thank you! This option is great because it saves you a lot of plumbing and headaches replacing the old valve. I just duplicated the steps that Charles on 29 July, 2014 took. I just frankenvalved my unit last night and it is working like a charm! 6. COPY OF Honeywell Water Heater Gas Valve Instruction/ Spec. Detach a black wire from a rectangular white plastic thingy. After the pilot heats the thermopile, and the LED blinks, I released the Red knob but the pilot would not stay on. I now have no indicator lights at all and when I try to relight the pilot it does not appear that the gas valve is opening for pilot flow at all. That signaled an error code for a fatal flaw in the water heater gas valve. Took the whole circuit board out and shorted the back of the capistor. I hope this helps others! So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. It saved me $150. My plumber advised he has been seeing A LOT of these units fail. Flushing the tank briefly seems to be a pre-requisite for this fix, so do that first. Thanks for the submission. Working fine. 2pos honeywell spst usew. Takes one screw driver to unscrew the one screw on the bottom of the controller. 5. One note, since I did not have any clip leads I just used a rubber band to hold two pieces of speaker wire to a AA battery and held the wires on the pins with my index fingers. Water Heater Gas Control Valve For Honeywell Whirlpool WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042. I called Whirlpool customer service, got the replacement valve for $30 cost of the shipment. Turn the knob to 9 or 10 oclock- since your controller is faulted, nothing should happen. If it overheats again, youll need to order yet another valve, or it will blow up, or something else you wont like. Had to do it twice for it to reset. WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WT8840B1500 WV8840B1059 WV8840B1117 WV8840B1118. Problem solved. There is no need to completely remove the board from the plastic control valve cover. I had a failing honeywell on my AOS smith water heater this morning. Since the old value was working again I just left it in there. The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. You can open up both the old and replacement valve, and just swap the fronts of the valves, containing the recalcitrant circuit board, leaving the back part that connects to the gas pipes in place. Take the front cover off. Had a 7 blinking light. Took a wire and touched the two pins where the thermo plugs in. So is there now way to reset the white light model? * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water [], [] How turn water main cutoff valve , In event main water valve fails, final backstop operate shut water house: main water valve street.. How to Turn Off Your Water Using the Main Cutoff Valve on 411 plumb: &p valve water heater leaking, Learn determine &p valve water heater leaking fix leaking &p valve.. 411 Plumb: The T&P Valve On My Water Heater Is LeakingResetting #$%@!! Gas Control Valve Kit (Natural Gas) Brand: AO Smith SKU: 100112336 ( 70) Q&A: ( 1) - + $163.99 each ADD TO CART In Stock Get 312 Wed, Mar 1 More Available Inventory Details Order by today, receive Wednesday Free Shipping This item ships free Easy Returns No restocking fee for 90 days Product Highlights - Natural Gas Specs - Contact Question? Drain a few gallons, a little scale. Well the throw away attitude has caught up with water heaters. If I dont update this entry, assume it is (for now). doctor dead, steampunk adventure set 1904 san francisco, . Remember these guys deal with this everyday. I have not found a procedure to un-fault a Honeywell Electronic gas controller on any web site, so I think I am the only one to do this. I will miss 7 -10 years of worry free WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 316910-000 316910-000 321166-000 100112336 & 9007884005 AO Smith AO Smith AO Smith WT8840B1500 2" insulation tank, 5" WC setting . This crap adds $15,000+ to our new automobiles. I then turned the gas valve to hot and it lit and ran. Is there a replacement gas valve that people have had success with? I dont know if I ever got the red lights flashing. then buying parts, or paying for those appreciated plumbersAll help, is appreciated! She did say they were including a return label if I would be so kind to return the faulty part so they could examine why these are giving out so quickly. But, dont buy a water heater from the DIY in any case. I also drained a small amount of sediment from the bottom of the tank, which was mostly brown water. It may show now the normal 1 code or it may show a 7 or maybe a 2. For two years I would drain out 5 gallons of water every two months to remove sediment. Wow it worked great. SUPER FIX< SUPER POST. Still working after these few months? Thank you Tyler for starting this thread. On one end make two tiny wraps to fit over the left and right pins on the valve under the cover like described elsewhere. After reading many of the comments rather than short anything on the circuit board I just unplugged the red and white input power and waited about 1 hour. I do not think you have the same honeywell control that this website is discussing, there is no power switch or power cord. The final straw while talking to Rheem tech support the main burner lit for 1 second, went out, and relit 2 seconds later. DB: Instructions are clear and hope to follow this to override the Honeywell piece of crap Gas Control Thermostat on my 2.5 year old 50gal tank. Test all joints after install for leaks! Land lord got a hot water heater last week because my old one was leaking. The new gas valve arrived and after inspecting it I see they redesigned the probe that sets the 4 flash code with a stainless shield. I guess Water heaters are now interactive devices requiring yearly maintenance. The bottom pin is ground ((-) on the battery)Connect the (-) negative of the battery there with a clip lead. The cover is still attached to the back of the unit by a colorful ribbon of wires, with a plug at the end that connects to the circuit board. My Whirlpool gas water heater is giving me the dreaded four blinks signal. Forgot to add one more important bit of informationI do not have any error codes, the red light blinks for standby mode and shows a heartbeat while the pilot light is on and continues despite the burner failing to ignite. Buy It Now. Miller Air Core Oil and Gas Harness. Turn off the gas, just to be on the safe side, even though were not going to be messing with the pipes. By the time I returned (maybe 30 minutes later), the led had returned to its normal blue 1-flash mode. Thanks so much. With 4 flashes, I unplugged the little cable for about 10 minutes and replugged in and got 7 flashes, but after another 10 minutes or so, it reverted to 1 flash and fired up. Got a back-up valve for free since mine was under warranty. Add Sears to Lowes of where not to buy a product. Select a Model: Gas Control Trade Replacement Valve. i followed your instructions and bingo! + One for DBs repair procedure. Expect difficulties. Slide the power switch on Mine is the 1109 and has no posts. It takes a T-15 screwdriver to remove the cover. My heater approximately 3 years old. I would like to add my experience with this hoping it may shed some light. Grow your service sales with the Honeywell WT8840. When that gets combined with another situation it can then escape the tight loop it appears to be in and in effect resets itself. I suggest going all the way and getting rid of the old plastic sensor. Atleast it did for me. The pilot light alone is keeping the solar water warm all night at about 120F. There is no pilot, it just ignites completely as needed with electronic ignitor. Set the dial to a reasonable temperature that wont upset the finicky little thing, and you should be good to go. Maybe a model or serial number? Praise GOD. Too good buddy, the solution you proposed works like charm, all working now ! NOTE: the 7-flash error seemed to last for quite awhile but eventually went to a normal single flash. It is a V pattern. Well, I am having issues again and think I may have just screwed myself. In particular, if you havent drained the sediment off the bottom of the tank, do that first. The reason I got a new WH was so there would be no problems! Wish Id read deeper in the thread to try jumping the valve with wire. I shorted the 2 pins on top of the module base for maybe 30 seconds. as the faint click was heard and the flashing light reappeared, it was now only blinking once! Taking your screwdriver and hold it against the upper right pin and the lower pin for about 3 seconds. You dont need the battery at all. worked for me. Any suggestions? This time they are sending me a new gas valve for free overnight. I will never by anything that has anything Honeywell on it again. I told them I had four flashes and the serial number. Update your shipping location. You can save delay and $hundreds in plumber fees by fixing the part thats gone on strike. My hat is off to you David, I followed you instruction and it clear the fault and is now heating my water. My new controller has a white blinking LED that will not reset. Bioluminescent Reindeer and the Value of Diversity. Its two pins go through the board. The two 10 inch jumpers wrapped around the left and right pins was the method that worked for me. I had the unit replaced. Honeywell stinks & has caused lots of trouble for me. Start the pilot by moving the knob to 6 oclock and press it in to start the gas and press the piezo starter button on the cover (you have to press the button between two fingers so it will not pop out of the cover it is possible to get shocked so maybe use a glove) several times until it lights. 1. We have a Whirlpool from Lowes. I have a state water heater (which are made by A.O. Who came up with the dumbass design that when you turn the dial to a normal, albeit high, position, it breaks the water heater? So are you saying that you got yours from the MFR? What a cluster outfit. Maybe it should be Teflon coated if that interaction is suspect? Worked for me waiting to see if burner shuts off It will not attempt to clear its own fault after it faults. The two wires to the controller on the bottom right are the two leads to the thermocouple which provides power to the controller and also senses when the pilot is lit. When I screw the gas adapter, just half way in the screw, the housing cracked. Feeling clean & grateful for hot water! Be sure the pilot stays on before continuing. What you will do next is connect the (+) positive of the battery to the right top pin so your battery is across the bottom pin (-) and top right pin (+) you should hear the click of the main valve opening. thank you so much. I am so happy that the company replaced it for you. Culminating in a permanent fault condition. YOU are a SUPER GENIUS! I wish I had known this a few months ago. Turned the dial to low and it started heating. Slide the power switch off. Nothing else worked for me. free! The main gas valve will open and the burner will fire up (If is does not fire up, it means the pilot was not lit and you should disconnect the battery and start over when the gas clears). I have well water. After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. I pay for labor and after much debate they agreed to pay for parts. I didnt mind to pay for the shipping cost, but, what I minded was the device was poorly made. You can now release the knob and the pilot should stay on. Shut off the pilot, remove the cover and reconnect the three wire connector to the circuit board. They are the 3 thin metal posts that stick out beyond everything else in an upside down triangular V pattern. What your friend did to fix your problem temporarily, was press the reset button on the safety interlock probably located on the access cover of the heating chamber. Thanks all and internet! NOTE: Only do this if youre sure that the problem that caused the overheating has been corrected. you will get a 7 flash error. If I had found this earlier I would have saved the next day shipping and done the $10 one. The light went out. ~ diy-home-tips.vwx.info, Home Projects: Is It A Problem That I Have Two Of Each Color Wires On My Honeywell Thermostat?. Tom. Its not very complicated, really. Rey and the Magic Amulet is a fantasy for younger readers. Error clears. I have another place with a Rheem Propane Tankless where the lowest normal setting is 100F. I researched the internet (many hours!) Ive tried everything trying to reset it , although it seems the flame is on . Something a major of an appliance like this cant barely go a year without working. Picture:here, 4. I woke up on a Saturday morning to this issue and used your Fault Clear instructions and they WORKED! After turning the heater off and shutting off the gas to the unit. My tank is fed solar preheated water, and so far, that water has been warm enough that the main propane burner has never fired with the thermostat set to LOW, so I was just curious. thanks for all the details you put in it. My error condition began with very short intervals of error which reset themselves without my doing anything. But, I didnt know that the new board (white light) had been fixed so it seemingly cant be reset So I think I just screwed myself trying to cut corners and buy a few extra days. Looks like you guys have saved a lot of people a lot of $$! But get this They now want owners to drain and flush their tanks every 6 months so calcium will not build up on the sensors! UPDATE: David Boones method worked great for me, exactly as described. Slide the ribbon of wires out of the clip on the housing, and the front of the gas valve is free. The Right top Pin is the main gas valve. I was ready to take the circuit board into work and try to reprogram it through what appears to be a serial port (TX RX pins). The 5 inlet pipe would NOT separate from the Gas Valve assembly, so I had to run up to Lowes and get a new inlet pipe (5 1/2) to connect to the new assembly. I called toll-free number on side of tank (877-817-6750), described my issue and gave a serial number. Thanks forcreating this site! (With the three wire plug OFF and the pilot on I was getting a 7 code only.) Thank you all for your help. Will most likely do the control board swap. US Government safety features. Thanks to all the posts here!!! Thanks guys!!! However, I started getting a 5-flash code (water temperature sensor failure) shortly after install. I installed the new valve and cleaned up the mess. That happened (I think) because I turned the heat dial all the way up. I suggest, like anything else you want to buy online, among those sellers with good reviews, choose the one with the best price. This time I left the knob in the pilot position for 10 minutes. Get a contractor model. heres what i did take off the cover on the valve and disconnect the 3 wire connector. Theres a little white reset button on the plate covering the combustion chamber, but that doesnt seem to have any effect!?! When I turn the dail on I IMMEDIATELY turn the dial all the way up to the highest setting and back to the lowest repeatedlyI did it 7 times in quick succession. Honeywell has a scam going, I paid over $500,00 for my water heater and several hundred to have it installed, since day one I have had nothing but trouble with the Honeywell thermostat,gas valve. Last year the Pilot light kept going out by itself. Pre-owned. I closed the cover again and lit the pilot again. I have 4 blinking lights. Twist the phone wires together, the burner lit for about 20 seconds then shut off. 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